ex1580 wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 2:11 pm
ChefKnivesToGo wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 1:07 pm
We stretch the dough and then assemble the pizza on our wooden peel. We use cornmeal to keep it from sticking. I also get flour all over the kitchen. The trick is not too much sauce and getting right to it. If you wait too long, it will stick to the peel, and then there's a problem.
I've run into that problem before, it was not good. We call them calzones.
My testing years ago determined that I could do it if I used only a little sauce and moved fast. The problem was that isn't always possible in my kitchen and the flour went everywhere. I still have my stones just in case I change my mind, or my kitchen. I never got one of the pizza steels, which I hear are supposed to be good, because I have so much iron and it works too.
Haha, yes. Calzones -- I meant to do that!
Fwiw, I have steels and stones and even though the steels win in a few categories, I still prefer the stones. Their porousness, and the fact that they absorb some moisture, make for superior, crispier crusts. The downside is that they're not as durable, are harder to clean (if not impossible) and end up absorbing so much foreign matter over time that they eventually begin to smell rancid after some period of time, and need to be replaced. But, in spite of all that, they produce better crusts.
ex1580 wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 6:47 pm
This is a follow-up to my previous post. We were out at a local Neapolitan pizza place (for research purposes of course) and sat near the kitchen for the kids entertainment. They had a couple of guys shaping and stretching the dough then putting it on a generously floured peel, which they had many of. The peel with the dough then went on a rack until the next person was ready to assemble (which might be several minutes later), then to another person or two operating the oven. It was a pretty efficient kitchen and the pizza was great. I was amazed that the pizza didn't stick to the peel. Judging from the color of the walls and the flour everywhere I am guessing excess is the answer.
EDIT: There is probably a kid that works in a pizza joint laughing at us for trying to reverse engineer this.
LOL, absolutely.
Tonight, grilled up some teriyaki salmon but first, some side-dishery . . .
Quinoa Mise En Place & Sukenari HAP40 Gyuto, 210mm
Evoo, salt, orphaned red onion & shallot, Sazón, black pepper, scallions, yellow bell pepper, jalapeno, mini tomatoes, white quinoa and chopped garlic.
Sauteed all of this and added it to the quinoa once it was cooked. The Sazón, I added to the water when cooking the quinoa.
Grilling
Marinated overnight, then patted dry, lightly oiled and seasoned with a couple of homemade rubs. From there, cooked indirect/covered for about 15 minutes, until internal temp was about 130F. Fwiw, I oiled the heck out of the grates and the whole piece of fish came off intact, with the skin. I could have cut it into pieces but cooking it whole makes it easier to maintain a moist interior while also getting a decent crust on the exterior. Smaller pieces tend to cook too fast for that.
Plated Up
With the Sazón & Veg quinoa and some sauteed broccolini (evoo, garlic, lemon, red pepper flakes). There's really no elegant way to portion out an already-cooked piece of fish with crispy skin underneath it. I did my best.
