New knife, never purchased one

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Aprylm
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New knife, never purchased one

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I'm looking to purchase my first knife, I have always used hand me downs that aren't great.

Husband can sharpen and does a great job on the knives we have but they lose an edge so quickly! I'm a little overwhelmed with all the choices so looking for some recommendations ☺️
I like the look of more rustic knives, but I'll probably end up with a few, so a functional workhorse is my first choice.

1)Pro or home cook?
A good home cook, I've been cooking daily for 20 years
I cook mostly asian and Indian food, so lots of produce,
Hard squashes too (kobocha, delicata etc) but I can use my hand me down knives on these if they will mess up my new knife.

2)What kind of knife do you want? (Gyuto, Santoku, Petty, Paring, Sujihiki, etc.)
Gyuto and a petty

3) What size knife do you want?
210 or 240 for the gyuto leaning more towards the 240
no preference on the petty

4)How much do you want to spend?
$150- $300 for the gyuto up to $100 petty

5) Do you prefer all stainless, stainless clad over reactive carbon, or all reactive carbon construction?
Don't know

6)Do you prefer Western or Japanese handle?
I've only used western handles but I think I would enjoy a Japanese handle

7)What are your main knife/knives now?
I use a wood handled 10" chef knife from a 1970's box set, marked only with a small "japan" and something called an avantgarde pro german steel chef knife 7" (my husband bought for me early in our marriage when we were super broke)
I reach for the the wood handled more often.
A paring knife from the same wood set

8)Are your knife skills excellent, good, fair?
Good

9)What cutting techniques do you prefer? Are you a rocker, chopper or push/pull cutter?
I'm a rocker and I pinch grip, I push/pull but I'm often working with dull knives

10)Do you know how to sharpen?
Yes (husband can)
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Re: New knife, never purchased one

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It's right at the top of your range, but this one: https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kuragy24.html seems seems like a good first foray into Japanese knives. It has a fairly high tip, so it should be a good rocker.
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Re: New knife, never purchased one

Post by cliff »

Greetings!

If you are used to a 10" Western, I would opt for a 240 Gyuto. This one is on the hefty side for a Japanese knife, but it has a great reputation around here (I don't have one, but I have similar knives and love them): https://www.chefknivestogo.com/gibl2gy24.html

I wouldn't use it on really tough squash, but just about anything else should be fine.

This next one is an undersized 240 laser. It will be very different from what you're used to -- you'll definitely want to keep the old knives around for heavy work. But it is remarkable: https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kotogsgy24bl.html
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Post by 7x57mm@gmail.com »

Hi Aprylm;

Being new to J-knives, I'll leave the recommendations to those who have experienced many different brands, styles and steels. What I can recommend that you do, if possible, is to handle (if possible) J-knives with the various Wa handle shapes. I have found I do not like "D" handles, I'm "meh" on oval handles but LOVE octagonal handles. I will likely have one of the craftsman on this site make me a custom for my oval handle Anryu Gyuto.
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This is the knife that I usually recommend as a first foray into Japanese knives <https://www.chefknivestogo.com/harukaze240.html>

Harukaze make great knives and at $130 this one has to be one of the best value for money knives on the site. I have one and it will be night & day better than your current knives. Great steel, well made, all stainless, sharpens easily, holds onto it's edge well and it has a very unique look as well.

Currently OOS, but worth waiting for if you're not in a hurry.

Just my 2c worth and you will hopefully get a lot of other intriguing suggestions
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Post by FisherMAn1298 »

Hi Apryim,
Welcome to the wonderful world of jknives. Here is a great blade to begin with:https://www.chefknivestogo.com/koshbl2gy24.html.
Made of blue #2 steel, a high quality high carbon steel. Read the synopsis on the site. High rhc of 62, nice octagonal handle, great fit and finish, high quality grinds. Either something like this or a white #2 steel would be good also. If you want , try the powdered steels, sg2 or R2.
here's a rustic version, AS blue super steel: https://www.chefknivestogo.com/moritakagyuto.html. This one has an rhc of 64-65 which is about as high as you can get. Great everything.
here's a petty in new SKR8 steel:https://www.chefknivestogo.com/ensrpe15.html. New blacksmith on the site. I got this knife the day it was postd. IT's great!
ONe more petty:https://www.chefknivestogo.com/shkawh2pe13.html. Made by Kamo-san. Beautiful damascus cladding,white #2 steel, which many say can carry a VERY sharp edge for an exteded amount of time.
Good luck to you!
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Post by Miles »

For the gyuto I don’t think I have to much to contribute beyond what’s been posted. Your budget for it will get you a great performing knife.

For a petty, I’ve found that a 150+ size is pretty nice. it’s a little longer just more versatile. It can get between things and turn in ways your gyuto won’t because of its height. In hand stuff is best for a paring knife 70-100mm.

This one is stainless, not sure what your level of care is. Good value, attractive blade. Maybe the lowest performance (not bad at all) with easiest maintenance.
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kovgdape15.html

Carbon with stainless cladding slightly taller. So some maintenance -wiping down the edge. It’s nice to have a tallish petty for more finger clearance on the cutting board & a touch more blade road. Pettys are typically short in height tho. https://www.chefknivestogo.com/gibl2pe15.html

Carbon with stainless cladding but typical height. Great value.
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/koaosupe15.html

This has some high tech steel that has fantastic edge retention
It’s semi stainless. Probably a good gyuto consideration too. More work to sharpen.
https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohape15.html

Good luck. No need to over think it-No matter what your choice CKTG has fantastic products that will be awesome kitchen tools for a long time (unless you get upgrade :D)
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Re: New knife, never purchased one

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To the OP: Hey there. Welcome to the forum. it can be overwhelming can’t it?

Couple of thoughts here and one suggestion at the end.

1. You’re right about the squashes. Use your older hand me downs. Nothing kills good JKnives faster than squash and hard cheese.
2. As a very general rule if you use a pinch grip you should be fine with a Japanese handle. They tend to be a little less expensive and there are more to choose from. That said if you see a western you like go for it.
3. As far as stainless, stainless clad, carbon etc. That has to do with how likely the knife is to discolor, and in extreme cases pit and rust if it isn’t wiped down and cared for during use. (Stainless fares better, carbon fares worse). Or flipping it on its head how easy it is to sharpen (As a rule carbon is easier and stainless is harder but that’s just a general rule.).

If you can see yourself wiping the knife down and never laying it on a pile of onion ever then maybe consider carbon. If you’d rather not bother... head toward the stainless.

***. Nobody’s mentioned this but make sure you have a decent cutting board? These knives are harder than what you’re probably used to. Plastic or glass or ceramic never. Wood... better. End grain thumbs up.



As far as specific recommendations there’s a Konosuke HD2 western in close outs right now that might be a good choice for you. https://www.chefknivestogo.com/kohd2gy24we.html

It’s western handle so you don’t need to worry about whether you’ll like a Japanese handle (although I don’t see why you wouldn’t). It’s a laser or laser-ish which means it’s a thinner knife and you should get a bit of a WOW as you cut through onions and celery and peppers and the like. Lasers are really good at cutting without resistance. It’s kind of in a sweet spot between hardness and softness so it should retain it’s edge without chipping. Plus Konos have a nice middle of the road shape to them. Should allow you slice as well as chop as well as rock. Finally it’s semi stainless so you shouldn’t need to worry about constantly wiping the blade down during use.

Kono’s have a very fine reputation for being very well made and well crafted knives.

Have a look... you might like it.
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Re: New knife, never purchased one

Post by Aprylm »

Thank you so much for all the responses! So much info :)

I'm picking up a hinoki cutting board to use with these knives and went ahead with the edge pro for sharpening.

I'm delighted to have quality tools, this is just the beginning of a long love affair :D
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