Shapleigh's hammer forged 1843

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Shapleigh's hammer forged 1843

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Hello knifies, I have an old shapleigh's hammer forged 1843 butchers knife I inherited from my grandfather who got it from his dad back in the 20s I believe(I'll have to double check on that with a family elder) All I know is the old knife still takes a sharp edge and it's been in the family for ages. Im sure it's not worth much ๐Ÿ’ฐ But it's the sentimental value that makes it priceless to us. I wanted some info on the company and the knife to add to its story. Here is a links to the pictures http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r61 ... dwsax.jpeg

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Photobucket... You'll have to upload it to another picture sharing site for us to see it.

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๐Ÿ˜ข I'll see what I can do but I'm extremely limited as I'm no where near savvy with technology

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All good. Them updating their terms of service has screwed over a lot of people on the site. Imgur is an easy one to use, there have been a few people experimenting with it recently.

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https://imgur.com/gallery/NyFLw
Can you see them now? :oops:

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Some info I found on Shapleigh....

From: Pocketknives...second edition by John E. Goins 1982
Shapleigh Hardware Company c1843-1960 This company had it's start in 1843 when A. F. Shapleigh, then a junior partner of Rogers Bros. & Co. of philadelphia, brought to St. Louis a stock of goods to open a branch of that company. This branch was named the Rogers, Shapleigh & Company. In 1847 the company became Shapleigh, Day & Co. This name was used until 1863 when the firm became A. F. Shapleigh & Co. The next year, 1864, Diamond Edge was adopted as the trademark for their tools and cutlery. The exact marking on these early knives is unknown at this time. In 1880 the name was the A. F. Shapleigh and Cantwell Hardware Company. This firm continued until 1888, when it became the A. F. Shapleigh Company. The next change in the company name occurred in about 1902. At this time, the company became the Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Company. Saunders Norvell started with the E. C. Simmons Hardware in the late 1800's as a clerk. He was still a clerk in 1898, but by 1900 was a vice president of the Simmons firm. By 1902 he had changed to Shapleigh, and was president by 1907 of the Norvell-Shapleigh Hardware Company. The name once again reverted to A. F. Shapleigh Hardware Co. in about 1920. On July 1, 1940 Shapleigh purchased the E. C. Simmons Hardware. From this time until 1960, they used the old Simmons trademarks on their products, as a second line to the Diamond Edge trademark. They continued to do business until 1960 when the firm was sold.The knives produced for this firm were marked on all blades until the middle 1940's. After this, they were marked on the master blade only. Some of the markings sold by Shapleigh were: Berkshire, Bridge Cutlery Co., Enders Oak Leaf, Diamond Edge(1864-1960) Keen Kutter(1940-1960), Empire Knife Co., NorShap (c1902-1920), Norvell-Shapleigh(c1902-1920), S Norvell(c1902-1920), Norvell's Best(c1902-1920), G. W. Putman & Co. Germany, Enterprise Cutlery Co., Simmons Hardware Co.(c1940-1960), Simmons Sonny(c1940-1960), and J. Koester's Sons Germany.
Source: https://www.talkblade.info/viewtopic.php?t=9731

http://www.knifecollector.net/ShapleighHardware.html

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pd7077 wrote: โ†‘
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From the pictures it looks like it may possibly been rehandled at one point with new handle scales. It looks like a bit of a homemade job with hex nut and bolt versus some type of cutler's pins. I don't know for sure tho.

Pretty cool to have some old carbon steel knife. With proper sharpening and storage it will stay a useable knife for a long time.

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milkbaby wrote: โ†‘
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:35 pm
From the pictures it looks like it may possibly been rehandled at one point with new handle scales. It looks like a bit of a homemade job with hex nut and bolt versus some type of cutler's pins. I don't know for sure tho.

Pretty cool to have some old carbon steel knife. With proper sharpening and storage it will stay a useable knife for a long time.
Amazing expertise. I rehandled it my self as the old handle was missing 2 of the 3 screws and was badly cracked. It's made from a 2x4 I had laying around from a recent remodel of our home. I basically oulined the old handle(2 piece) and jig sawed it then sanded it and sealed it with some wax/oil mix I use to seal my butcher block. Not the prettiest but it's functional now. It does take a mean edge as well๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ

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Oh wow! It is so very cool that you've got that along with all its history. And... given what you're doing for a living now... really, really cool. Love the profile on that knife. I have roots in Philly... I'm going to check out some of the thrifts next couple of trips down to see if maybe.. needle in a haystack I know... I can find one of the Rogers & Co.

PS: How's the alligator coming?

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Unfortunately no gator yet. My brothers bday is tomorrow (the reason for tge gator) but my wife had a c section last week and were back at the hospital . We'll be here for at least a couple more days till she heals. She had a 10cm blood clot inbetween her skin and ab muscle right at the incision. She had to have emergency surgery to remove the clot. She is looking well and everything is looking good. The gator will be bbqed hopefully sometime as next week.

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Just realized I had a beautiful old hickory that's been in the family for over 60 years. Wanted to know how to upload a pic seeing as how I'm new here

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Love to see the pics of the old hickory and best wishes on the new addition and may your wife heal quickly.

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I found a beautiful antique shapleigh knife

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This one is ours.
Hoping I could find another has been passed down to my husband from his grandfather.
I would love to know history on it but I have nothing.
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