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I should have added that it's a question of how far off the apex the edge is, or perhaps time. If a strop or fine stone gets you to an apex quickly, you are touching up. If you need more to apex, you aren't just touching up - as the term implies you aren't looking to do much to get back to your idea...

Touching up, a opposed to going down to a mid-grit stone or even a full progression. So if a blade has lost that "fresh off the stones" feeling, a stropping or high grit stone (whatever the one you use for that blade) will take it back. To me that is touching up. Anything more than that is...

The Daovua Tall Nakiri has a belly - the front half is curved. This might work better for you. They aren't much for edge holding though.

The chuka-bocho is a chopper/push cutter and the proper grip is a three fingered pinch grip with fingers splayed out.

Cleavers are mostly, but not totally flat. That is the standard profile.
You can reprofile the end if you want, some nakiris are like that.
But millions of people use one every day successfully.

At the top end, the GUGC is wrong. The Shapton Glass 10K is 1.47 microns and the Chosera is finer than the Shapton.

Captaincaed wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:05 pmI'm throwing a D2 benchmade at the 1k pretty soon.

Please let me know how that goes, so many budget knives are D2 or "D2" now. Not my favorite, the time it takes doesn't seem worth the edge it takes.
How do you feel about the wear rate?

There is also the Suehiro Cerax and Suehiro Rika that people give good feedback on.
They Kitayama 8K that people swear by.

Sorry, typed wrong. I missed the steel plate underneath the diamond layer.
I am thinking of these because of all the vanadium heavy super steels out now.

Thank-you. I didn't catch the diamond plate at first glance.
I really dislike using regular diamond plate, but more edc knives are in S35VN now.

It might help if you can say what kind of price limit, not including a stone holder (you could build one) and flattening stone (you should get one). Also, do you have time to let stones soak? Do you have a preference on feedback and texture? If you had soaking stones, do you have space for them to d...

Well you're going to get a lot of answers on that, because from what I've seen Mark isn't carrying garbage and every good line has it's proponents. First off, on price we can leave out Chosera and Suehiro Debado. And maybe Shapton Glass too. Shapton Pros give the most bang for the buck and has the c...

Has anybody tried the 1K & 6K waterstones from JKI? I'm curious about the feel, speed, and maintenance of these stones. I'm not sure I want to buy them, but having an option other than diamond plates for high vanadium steels sounds good. What other water stones do they feel like? Do they have go...

There must be more. A lot of the J-Nats sold on this site are estimated to be 10K+.

Good news is I now officially know two people who use 10k and 16k stones on kitchen knives, haha. I'm assuming that other person isn't me, so that's three. I've used 10K+ edges on the gyuto that I've used to cut up Boston butt (as well as other knives). I cut the meat off one side - the one without...

My reasoning for a 140 flattening plate isn't speed, but because a 400 wouldn't leave as aggressive a surface on the coarse stone.

It depends on what kind of knife you are looking for. Those are all good retailers, but their weakness is traditional knives.
Deadwood Knives is the best place for that.

Thanks guys. This will save me some anxiety about the vice too.

If a hair dryer might do it, I wonder if I can do this in the oven at the lowest setting. To be honest, I probably won't do it for a while. The other stone costs less than the Debado and I have no emotional connection to it. It's from MTC Kitchen and they ship slow. I'll try on that one first. I als...

I haven't tried it yet, I need to get a heat gun.

I'm considering buying a stone that is on a base and I'm also tired of the base on my Suehiro Debado. I'm guessing some heat, then scrapping and flattening will do it. But I don't need a melty plastic mess or scorched plastic smell. Has anybody removed the base from a stone before? Any advice? Thank...